tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18993305.post330463031143363233..comments2023-10-09T05:23:52.596-04:00Comments on ecospirit: Lima COP as Patchwork QuiltRobert McGaheyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06197722220643130087noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18993305.post-58029921427008238232015-01-14T08:38:19.213-05:002015-01-14T08:38:19.213-05:00Bob wrote:
"Are you the person who in the pas...Bob wrote:<br />"Are you the person who in the past on this blog has prodded me with excellent scriptural references?"<br /><br />probably so - I've read your blog off and on for a long time, I know I've posted in the past at least a few times, and I do tend to tune in to biblical underpinnings and "echoes" :-)<br /><br />"I appreciate the care with which you hold all of this. You are a blessing to the earth community"<br /><br />thank you SO much Bob - I often feel like I come across as a curmudgeon, a cranky nay-sayer... <br /><br />Your ministry through this blog has helped me SO much, and QEW is quickly becoming a beloved community for me. <br /><br />I love that term - "doomer" :-) <br /><br />I suppose part of my problem is that the sum of all the outward plans and solutions to earthcare issues don't look to me like they add up to (or even synergize to) an actual SOLUTION. Which doesn't mean we shouldn't do at least the proposals whose net unintended consequences look to be positive. <br /><br />I experience all problems as ultimately spiritual problems, and believe that any true solutions will also be spiritual...<br /><br />Blessings to you, brother, and thank you for your patience!<br /><br />Susan J. Susan J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07676460547965873094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18993305.post-77401813743160314912015-01-13T20:14:36.578-05:002015-01-13T20:14:36.578-05:00Susan - As a naturally leaning "Doomer,"...Susan - As a naturally leaning "Doomer," it has taken a lot of work to get to this place (see my post from October). I also have a mystical bent, which helps both the hopelessness and the over-rational tendency. I have enjoyed your arrival on the QEW list. Are you the person who in the past on this blog has prodded me with excellent scriptural references?<br /> I appreciate the care with which you hold all of this. You are a blessing to the earth community, Susan. Robert McGaheyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06197722220643130087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18993305.post-62062117418814300862015-01-11T05:15:52.602-05:002015-01-11T05:15:52.602-05:00thanks so much, Bob.
there's so much about in...thanks so much, Bob.<br /><br />there's so much about international top-downish strategizing that rubs me the wrong way, but you've managed to open my mind a crack at least :-)<br /><br />the quilt metaphor helps me a lot; I've been sitting with it all week in the QEW discussion, and now you've revisited it in a specific way that works for me.<br /><br />my stomach still clenches when I hear optimism based in "the joint announcement by US and Chinese leaders to reduce (US) and cap (China) carbon emissions a few weeks prior to the Lima conference" -- a decreasing rate of growth is still an increase -- but I at least feel like I'm starting to get an inkling how environmentalist Friends look at such an announcement.<br /><br />Your specificity about what's been done and what's planned helps a lot - thanks for explaining so well -- but what fed me most was your discussion of at least 4 different ways to think about the frame and backing of the quilt: the community, the UNFCCC process, "the whole idea of international cooperation," and (WOW - WONDERFUL) "the Mystery which underlies the process, the ultimate frame and backing for our effort[s]."<br /><br />I so often feel out of step with environmentalist activists -- you've opened a door for me, and I'm so very happy to at least peek inside.<br /><br />Thank you!<br /><br />Susan J.Susan J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07676460547965873094noreply@blogger.com